Introducing the Theocrat Leader Class and Video

A radiant sun shines over Triumph Studios today, a perfect moment to reveal the long-expected Theocrat Class with another 19 minute long game play video, once again narrated by Tombles. In this video he finally gets his chance to convert you to Goblindom as he roams the lands with his Goblin Theocrat, spreading the good word, and bringing light to the blighted lands. Watch as his army fearlessly engages the heretic Sorcerer hordes in her own backyard, scaling the walls of her city and showing just how powerful those on the righteous path of the Theocrat can be.

For more information about the Theocrat Class, check the class page.

“Theocrats lead the masses by their hearts. They heal, persuade, minister and convert. Their zealots are fiercely loyal, convinced that any action they perform will earn them a greater reward in the afterlife.  Because Theocrats tend not to wield many directly offensive powers, it is tempting to believe Theocrats pose no threat. History has proven this to be foolishness. Many earthly kingdoms have fallen under relentless crusades where holy armies of martyrs, evangelists, templar knights, war shrines and angelic beings bring Armageddon to pagan lands.”“Gifted Lords of the Third Age” by Ralinstone Pedant, Chronicler

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  • #47151

    Thierry
    Moderator

    A radiant sun shines over Triumph Studios today, a perfect moment to reveal the long-expected Theocrat Class with another 19 minute long game play vid
    [See the full post at: Introducing the Theocrat Leader Class and Video]

    #47181

    j0rdan
    Member

    That Sir, was a brilliant video! Can’t wait for release

    #47231

    Motasa
    Member

    Really like the feel and look of this class. Mighty Meek and Mark Of The Heretic really seem to give this class the flavour of fighting a holy war against the unbelievers.

    At first I was a bit sceptical of the T4 unit (Shrine of Smiting), but seeing it in action – it gaining more “smiting-power” when stacked with Devout units and it’s one time use of the truly powerful Divine Vengeance – changed my stance towards this unit. Still, I find the sun-shaped (or whatever) spinning decoration at the back end of the Shrine a bit too similar to the staves of the High Elf Storm Sisters.

    #47232

    Fentum
    Member

    HURRAH!

    #47237

    Rhaeg
    Member

    As always, Tombles was great at commentary. Made me smile all 19 minutes long :) Apart from that, it seems like “the right feel” has been captured for this class: zealouts that sacrifice themselves, the weak that get inspired to acts above what they are normally capable of, conversion of the weak minded… yup, that would fit a religious class ;)

    #47239

    Aztook
    Member

    Very nice, well worth the wait.

    #47242

    Agathos
    Member

    Two words come to mind:

    AWE-SOME!
    :)

    #47243

    Telenil
    Member

    I noticed the Exalted could be attacked by swordsmen. Do they Hover, or can any flyer be attacked by melee units now?

    (probably a silly question, but I don’t come to this forum very much)

    #47253

    Rhaeg
    Member

    I noticed the Exalted could be attacked by swordsmen. Do they Hover, or can any flyer be attacked by melee units now?

    Flyer units are supposed to be landing now after movement and are thus attackable by melee units. This was done because the flyers in previous games were too powerful or could be used for silly exploits like letting them occupy a city gate hex, I believe.

    #47258

    Teru
    Member

    it looks great, can’t wait

    #47260

    Telenil
    Member

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Telenil wrote:</div>
    I noticed the Exalted could be attacked by swordsmen. Do they Hover, or can any flyer be attacked by melee units now?

    Flyer units are supposed to be landing now after movement and are thus attackable by melee units. This was done because the flyers in previous games were too powerful or could be used for silly exploits like letting them occupy a city gate hex, I believe.

    Weird. No more dragon incinerating armies from the air then?

    I wasn’t too fan of theocrat units when I read the description, but after seeing the trailer, I have to admit it feels awesome.

    #47261

    v8man
    Member

    Nice video and commentary. Like someone said above, I like the feel of this class. And who wouldn’t like the idea of little goblin evangelists preaching the gospel across the land?

    The Eldritch monster was hot as well.

    #47284

    Sethfcm
    Member

    I have never liked the religious class so much.

    I also enjoyed seeing the combat like that, in the end it demonstrated good tactics and spell usage combined with the use of flying units overcoming an otherwise impossible siege situation.

    23 More days…it’s a deadly wait.

    #47308

    Jorlox
    Member

    …What’s not fun about branding heretics? :D

    #47316

    Knjizhnichar
    Member

    As always, Tombles was great at commentary.

    Tombles is that glorious commentator that is so great at putting things just the right way and strategically placing sounds like “bang”, “boom” and “donk” and has the added quality of annoying people on youtube who are quick to bitch about a lisp, even though it’s perfectly clear what he says, which actually can’t be said for all commentators?

    Kudos to him!

    Edit: Too bad there were no said sound effects in this one with all the opportunities, but I still found it great.
    Anyway, to the purpose of the edit: when phantasms climb walls, do they put up ladders as well and then float up the ladders in their leglessness?

    #47324

    Nice vid and comments! Make me smile again like “outsmarted by my own AI” – that is the ultimate goal :)

    One thing I didn’t understand: at 16:20 the witch Larissa is shooting lightning bolts at an exalted unit and seems to do damage. The next turn however the exalted unit seems to be on full health. Is this correct/do I miss something?

    #47330

    Tombles
    Keymaster

    At about 5:15 I used a martyr to protect the exalted, it was still active when Laryssa shot at them. So, the martyrs took the damage instead (and died I think, since right after that the exalted stpoped glowing)

    Anyway, to the purpose of the edit: when phantasms climb walls, do they put up ladders as well and then float up the ladders in their leglessness?

    I think floating negates wall climbing, so they just float over the walls? I’d have to actually try it to be sure.

    And thanks for all the compliments guys! I appreciate it :)

    #47338

    haitsien
    Member

    figured this would show up for the weekend. Triumph did not disappoint.
    I like the way each class & unit really has a well-thought-out role so you can plan
    how they will support/compliment each other in battle. love the ladders!

    Tombles, as usual, is a superb guide: sense of humor, sexy lisp, willingness to reveal forbidden mysteries, obviously having a blast which makes us even more eager to get our hands on AOWIII.

    #47361

    liclic
    Member

    Honestly I found that the smiting T4 of theocrat is really tricky. To have the better effect, it should be far enough not to be engaged or it will be difficult for it to do its job properly.

    #47381

    Gamling
    Member

    Well done video. Battle was fun to watch. :)

    #47382

    Haste on the Eldritch Horror was a pretty nice move from the AI.

    #47385

    Ericridge
    Member

    I had to admit, I did really think Theocratic goblins would lose the fight to that eldritch horror gone amok. Because it was just squashing and throwing them across the battlefield for having the impudence to face it. But in the end eldritch horror got swarmed and beaten down I laughed.

    #47419

    Agathos
    Member

    Gotta say Tombles, you really do provide the very best gameplay videos–ever!

    From, ‘I’ve been outsmarted by my own AI’ to ‘Or, I guess I could just kill them’–you had me in stitches even the second time I watched it. But what really took the cake was when you said, ‘I’m not supposed to show you this… but… [implied, I sure not going to let the AI win on a gameplay video]–and you brought in your T4 to deliver the blow. Your videos have probably single-handedly contributed more than anything else to all the harsh, impatient and radical comments we’ve all posted b/c we’re looking for AN EARLIER RELEASE! MUST PLAY THIS GAME NOW!!!

    Thanks again for such enjoyable footage!!

    #47453

    At about 5:15 I used a martyr to protect the exalted, it was still active when Laryssa shot at them. So, the martyrs took the damage instead (and died I think, since right after that the exalted stpoped glowing)

    Ah, you are right! You had a few martyrs in the battle doing that but I forgot that exalted unit was also protected. Thanks for clarification.

    BTW There are some pretty nice screenshots in the Theocrat section for those who didnt noticed.

    #47584

    Kuranes
    Member

    I must admit I am little dissapointed in how unaltered the theocrat theme is applied to other races. Obviously all races are gonna have their chosen dieties, and accompanying clerics, fanatics, heretics and all that. But their perception of divinity and heaven will likely differ, which makes forcing the theme of “lawful goodness” with their halos, scriptures and glimmering light onto all races just seems stupid. Especially when some of the goody-two-shoes units are gonna stand in such stark contrast to the other units of the given race. Just look at the orcs, obviously the theocrat theme seems completely unfitting there – despite cultured fanatisism and ethnocentry being present almost everywhere. Why does the “good lord above” the orcs, goblins or draconians worship have to be the absolutely same as humans? The draconians already have a heavy aztecic theme going on, it seems like an obvious choice to incorporate that into the appearance of their theocrat units.

    #47622

    b0rsuk
    Member

    I have to say while I hate religious zealots, the mechanics and flavor really fit together for this class. There are many good synergies. I don’t think it can be said of Rogue, for example.

    #47770

    NEHZ
    Member

    I have to say while I hate religious zealots, the mechanics and flavor really fit together for this class. There are many good synergies. I don’t think it can be said of Rogue, for example.

    Rogues don’t need synergy. They just stab everything :D
    (seriously though, I love my draconian rogue)

    #47784

    Gyor
    Member

    In the units fluff some Theocracts worshipped the Allfather, while others worshipped Anon (Archon Wizard turned God I guess),

    As for Rogues I can see synergies, but its hard to tell for certain without farther details.

    #47826

    Zozma
    Member

    I must admit I am little dissapointed in how unaltered the theocrat theme is applied to other races. Obviously all races are gonna have their chosen dieties, and accompanying clerics, fanatics, heretics and all that. But their perception of divinity and heaven will likely differ, which makes forcing the theme of “lawful goodness” with their halos, scriptures and glimmering light onto all races just seems stupid. Especially when some of the goody-two-shoes units are gonna stand in such stark contrast to the other units of the given race. Just look at the orcs, obviously the theocrat theme seems completely unfitting there – despite cultured fanatisism and ethnocentry being present almost everywhere. Why does the “good lord above” the orcs, goblins or draconians worship have to be the absolutely same as humans? The draconians already have a heavy aztecic theme going on, it seems like an obvious choice to incorporate that into the appearance of their theocrat units.

    I agree that the Aztec feel wouldn’t mesh well with the Theocrat, but I disagree with you on other fronts. If AoW2 is anything to go by then spirit worship seems to be the primary form of religion, meaning the concept of deities may not be very widespread.

    Now let’s say a new religion comes along. Practitioners of this religion have their prayers answered, witness miracles, and are empowered through their faith in ways we must assume they weren’t with different religions. So if the methods of this religion proved to be functional, why would other races deviate from the formula?

    You think there should be diversity in the races because you’re assuming that the existence of a god/central theocratic concept or figure is an open question. But if this figure is actually bestowing blessings and fulfilling miracles then it *isn’t* an open question. An orc concept of divinity and heaven wouldn’t look different from a humans because divinity is an actual observable phenomenon and heaven may be an actual place you can go to. If the way I’m reading it is correct, this isn’t an example of people inventing deities that look and act like them, it’s a case of a very real deity telling people how to act and behave to earn its blessing. And if drawing down divine light requires building shrines a certain way or dressing a certain way then people will do it regardless of their race’s culture.

    #47886

    Jorlox
    Member

    If Tombles doesn’t make a playthrough or letsplay series, I am going to be disappoint. :(

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